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Letters from our readers Correction I just received my Journal and saw Rita's obituary ["Obituaries," March 31, page 19], and I just wanted to point out that the date of her death was not accurate. Rita died on Friday, March 7, not Saturday the 8th. Peter
Kamen
Milford,
Conn.
The everlasting
Father
Much attention
is given to the question of whether Jesus is God. Those who think
not seem to inadequately explain numerous scriptures testifying
to the affirmative, and I don't suppose they can adequately explain
them.
John 1:14 tells
us that "the Word became flesh and dwelt among us." We know this
refers to Jesus, who was flesh, so when the first verse of that
chapter tells us, as the Majority text does, that "God was the Word,"
we have to make some sort of identification of Jesus with God.
When Paul refers
at Titus 2:13 to "our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus," many
try to alter the reading, but the quoted text is in agreement with
the Majority text, and the suggested alterations are not.
No, there is (Isaiah
43:11) no Savior besides God, but we know who our Savior is, so
why claim He isn't God?
As Hosea 13:4 says,
there is no God except Him and no Savior besides Him.
Peter agrees (1
Peter 1:1) that He is "our God and Savior." Jude 25 is plain in
the Majority text that He is "God our Savior," although the Westcott-Hort
error ("through Jesus Christ our Lord") has crept into most translations
now.
When we are told
in Acts 20:28 that God purchased the church with His own blood,
we ought to take it as a clue as to what or who Jesus is.
When Thomas refers
to Jesus as "my God" (John 20:28), the Lord, who is usually not
reticent about correcting error, appears to be content to be so
called.
It is argued that
Yehoshua never claimed to be God, yet that is not the testimony
of His contemporaries. John 5:18 expresses their opinion that He
was "making himself equivalent to God."
When He says, at
John 8:24, that "unless you believe that I am, you shall die in
our sins," this looks to me to be His claim to divinity.
When He says, at
verse 58, "Before Abraham was born, I am," it is understood that
He is claiming to be God because the Jews would not have wanted
to stone Him otherwise.
When He says at
John 10:30, "I and the Father are one," He really means it. Isaiah
9:6 calls Him "the everlasting father" and also "Mighty God."
In the interest
of brevity I won't go further, but I have not even begun to exhaust
the Bible testimony that God became Yehoshua of Nazareth.
I notice that many
who explain some of the scriptures I cited revert to the corrupt
texts Vaticanus and the Sinaiticus, which up to the late 1800s were
completely rejected by Christian scholars who knew of their unreliability
beside the Byzantine text.
I realize that
part of the problem is that, on the one hand, God says He is one
and that there are no other gods beside Him, and on the other hand
Jesus prays to God and in many ways seems distinct from God. So
this leads some to conclude that Jesus is not God.
I can't explain
the apparent contradiction (yet), but that doesn't mean I should
reject the clear scriptural teaching that Jesus is my God and my
Savior, the everlasting Father. My incomprehension of a fact doesn't
render it untrue.
I am glad we fail
to understand most things because otherwise the glory to which we
are called would not be a lot greater and better than this.
Gordon
Feil
Victoria,
B.C., Canada
Changing big
time
Some have received
a copy of the "Begotten/Born Again" text from 1902 [which some say
was the basis for Herbert W. Armstrong's belief and teaching on
the doctrine]. For what it's worth, here are some thoughts that
it prompted.
A couple of points
that come to mind. First, it really is irrelevant to me whether
Herbert Armstrong copied this idea from someone else. We've known
for a long time that other concepts he expounded on were borrowed
from a variety of sources.
The point that
is important to me is whether the teaching is true or false, not
whether X or Y was the first one to come up with the idea. After
all, God can use a jackass to convey His message if He chooses to.
As far as the specific
teaching is concerned, I think we must always be careful about distinguishing
between what is literal and what is figurative or emblematic. In
this case, if we take the begettal-birth analogy too far, we end
up with impossible conundrums.
For example, in
a normal human begettal there is a womb inside a mother. Where is
the womb? Who is the mother spiritually? The church?
But the church
is the assembly of the called-out ones, or the begotten ones, if
you prefer. So is the mother made up of all the embryos and fetuses?
Another point:
In the case of the Christian, he has full freedom of choice and
of action during the "begettal" stage. That's not true of a real
embryo or fetus. So we clearly can't apply some of these things
literally.
In addition, there
are references, say, in Hebrews, to new Christians who still need
the milk of the Word, like babies who have already been born. As
we all know, embryos and fetuses who are still in the womb don't
drink milk.
By extension, Hebrews
suggests that babies are expected to grow and mature, certainly
not remain as long-term fetuses.
Paul elsewhere
talks about growing to the measure and stature of Jesus Christ.
You can't be both mature and a fetus at the same time.
I think we can
sometimes get so bug-eyed about the meanings of words that we miss
the big picture. To me the big picture includes the reality of conversion:
We change when we are converted. We are a "new man" in Christ. The
"old man" is buried in baptism.
And we change also--big
time!--when we are resurrected. Throughout this process we are considered
the children of God, whom we address as "Father" through His Son,
our Elder Brother.
Reg
Killingley
Big
Sandy, Texas
Talk about health
and wealth
Dave Havir's article,
"Thank God Every Day for the Hedge," in the March 31 Journal correctly
identifies what is wrong with the "health-and-wealth gospel" but
ignores the fact that the words you use are the evidence of what
you believe.
If you say positive
things you will become positive. Negative things will make you negative.
When praying to the Father, if you are negative how can you approach
His throne boldly?
As we can read,
Satan is negative and when talking to God uses negative accusations
against the brethren and God's creation (Revelation 12:10).
Jesus, on the other
hand, was always positive because He believed.
This belief was
spoken without doubt as He performed His many miracles. Jesus stated
to His followers that if they had the faith of a mustard seed they
could move mountains. Yet even with this belief, a part of His very
being, He could not perform many miracles when encountering unbelief
(Matthew 13:54-58).
What most miss
with the health-and-wealth gospel (Colossians 1:27-29) is that God
does promise to those who accept Christ that they have power to
change their everyday life. They are to overcome (John 16:33; Revelation
3:17).
Maybe many will
remember the story from childhood about the little engine that could.
It was a case in which belief made success possible (Matthew 21:22).
We must be careful
when pointing out the obvious flaws in the health-and-wealth gospel
that we do not remove the positive faith given us on the Day of
Pentecost.
Wealth and health
are nothing to the power given to us as individuals by the sacrifice
of Jesus Christ and His Spirit in us.
All things work
to the good, so even the trials that are so sore at times are for
our benefit (Romans 8:28).
We have a greater
gospel than those who look to mere material things. We have knowledge
that what we say and think can change events and that God can and
will deliver us. We thank Him every day for His hedge because we
know it is in us.
Does this faith
in God's power make Him a puppet of our wishes? Not if we understand
that all power comes from Him. Those who think that because He has
given them the power to move mountains means He is our servant do
not believe in the power He has shared with them (Mark 16:16-17).
The mere idea that
we can command God shows our lack of faith in Christ in us while
we doubt our sharing of Christ's power. We never command but ask
out of love and respect because we are not greater than the Son
or Father; we are brothers.
The hedge is within
us. We do have what we confess or say, and it is not blasphemy to
thank God daily for His power in us that helps us to make it into
His Kingdom. We name it and claim it in truth and not for selfish
greed.
"Death and life
are in the power of the tongue" (Proverbs 18:21). You do have what
you say.
Shelby,
Teresa and B.D. Davis
La
Follette, Tenn.
Much ado
In the Letters
section of the April 30 issue of The Journal, Geoffrey Neilson of
South Africa speculates on the meaning of the W in Herbert W. Armstrong's
name. I once asked Mr. Armstrong what the W stood for. His reply:
"Nothing."
In the same letters
section, Phil Griffith comments on my thinking that I am offering
a helping hand and that readers of The Journal are rejecting it.
My only concern
is with what is objectively, factually, true about anything. I am
not especially concerned about being disagreed with, rejected or
criticized.
Of and by themselves,
those things mean nothing. They come to mean something only when
the content of them has substance.
If the substance
of criticism gets us all closer to truth, we are better off for
it. What matters is not me or my opinions but truth itself.
Ideally, the dissenting
discussions that grace the pages of The Journal are intended to
move us in the direction of what is actually true about any given
issue. Truth is what counts.
It concerns me
less that people might reject my opinions than it does that they
will reject truth itself. The two things are not always synonymous.
I believe that what matters is that we are progressively, incrementally,
moving in the direction of objective truth on all matters of importance.
That means jettisoning
along the way all things that turn out to be less than true.
When I was a small
boy growing up with my grandparents, my grandfather taught me that
the most important question in the world is "Why?" I still believe
that. I don't care so much about what people believe as about why
they believe it. If the "why" doesn't hold up, there's no reason
to accept the belief as valid.
Brian
Knowles
Monrovia,
Calif.
Weights and
measures
Regarding Barbara
Slater's letter on the Barbara Fenney case in the March issue of
The Journal ["No Shortage," page 2], if we did not judge these evil
deeds in the church they would tell us less about the accused than
about the accuser.
When the apostle
Paul heard accusations about the accused in the church at Corinth,
they turned out to be right (1 Corinthians 5:1-3), even though he
was not a firsthand witness before he made his final "absent in
the body" judgment.
A true witness
runs to The Journal with his report because he knows he is not being
heard by his ministers and members in the church, who are seeking
to justify themselves apart from Christ and to keep their sins quiet.
According to Proverbs
17:15, you do not want to be found justifying wickedness in the
church. A wicked man who does wickedness is wicked even if he calls
himself a church member or a minister.
Regarding Gerry
Russell's letter on the Fenney case in the same issue ["List of
Disfellowshippable Offenses," page 2], if John Jewell's action to
disfellowship Mrs. Fenney were indeed upheld by the U.S. councils,
she would not have found herself and her husband back in the same
church when the subsequent turmoil arose.
As for the charges
of "financial misappropriation" by Mrs. Fenney against Mr. Jewell,
there was no such thing but only a disagreement over how church
funds should have been allocated.
Regarding the Fenneys'
previous objections to certain prophetical teachings, the answer
is to defend your position from the Scriptures. As Paul said, "let
two or three speak, and the other discern it thoroughly. If a thing
be disclosed to one sitting by, let the first hold his peace" and
not eyeball him suspiciously or proudly hold onto an indefensible
position or judge him with evil thoughts.
As for Mrs. Fenney's
intention to "get rid" of John Jewell, as though a member has power
over Christ to dislodge an ordained man from his post of authority,
the Lord did not prevent this from happening . . .
Therefore do not
judge according to the flesh or be a faultfinder, for many are sinning,
both the accused and the accuser.
They hunt for faults,
take any disagreement as a sign of rebellion, receive godly rebukes
as illegal offenses (calling it "judgmentalism"), commit them to
memory, then retrieve them to prevent upright judgment of a case
on the basis of its own merits.
They apply respect
of persons in judgment (James 2:9) and use abominable weights and
measures when judging (Proverbs 20:10, 23).
Ned
Dancuo
Hamilton,
Ont., Canada
I could write
a book
Thanks to my friends
and colleagues for their interest in my new books, The Origins and
Empire of Ancient Israel and Israel's Lost Empires.
I know there are
many people who wish to purchase copies of my new books.
However, it has
come to my attention that unforeseen distribution problems have
developed involving the placing of orders for them at the Web sites
and postal address I had previously provided and recommended.
Because of these
distribution problems, I urge you to hold off on placing any additional
orders for the books at those addresses until you hear from me that
the problems at these outlets have been cleared up.
If you or anyone
else would like to reserve a signed copy of the new books, I can
accommodate that request.
Orders may be sent
to me at P.O. Box 88735, Sioux Falls, S.D. 57109, U.S.A. The cost
is now $20 per book plus $5 shipping fees for one book (or $6 for
two books).
I will hold off
on cashing anyone's checks until the distribution problems are resolved
and I know orders can be processed.
The problems involving
my new books do not affect orders for my first book, The "Lost"
Ten Tribes of Israel . . . Found! The price for a single copy is
still $20 plus $5 for shipping fees.
Bulk discounts
are also still available.
Steven
M. Collins
Sioux
Falls, S.D.
Islam and the
Sabbath
It's reassuring
to read that someone in the COG has come forward to expose the truth
about Islam.
While Scott Ashley's
article ["Church of God Editor and Writer Changed His Mind About
Islam After the Terror of Sept. 11," April 30 issue] clearly stated
that "the Koran's Allah is not the same as the God of the Bible,"
he failed to identify the hallmark of the God of the Bible.
That truth, as
spoken by God, is: "For I, the Lord, do not change . . ." (Malachi
3:6). The Old Testament judge Samuel told Saul that God "will not
lie or change His mind" (1 Samuel 15:27).
Even the writer
of Hebrews reaffirmed that "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and
today, yes, and forever."
Further, since
we know that Jesus Christ is God the Father's agent as His spokesman
and Creator of all things, then we also know that God's seventh-day
Sabbath is the only acceptable day of worship.
Anyone and everyone
who worships God on any other day, whether deceived or willingly
coerced or otherwise, is not worshiping the only true God. That
includes Muslims, who worship on Friday, as well as all Sunday worshipers.
This may also be
politically incorrect to many readers, but man better get used to
the idea that the Eternal isn't now, or ever was, the slightest
bit interested in political correctness as determined by men.
Ray
Rousseau
East
Freetown, Mass.
Thanks, Scott
Thanks to Scott
Ashley's article, "Was Islam Ever a Religion of Peace?," I'm sending
for another year of The Journal.
The article hit
the nail square on. Mr. Ashley, you told it as it was and is now.
Everything we have
studied in the last five years was neatly tied together in this
article.
This is the type
of material we are in search of.
Please continue,
Scott Ashley, with more.
Jan
and Harold White
Guilford,
Ind.
Worthy cause
I sometimes travel
with a group called Missionaries to the Preborn, P.O. Box 26931,
Milwaukee, Wis. 53226 (www.missionariestopreborn.com).
They believe in God's holy law and have ministers who preach repentance
on the streets. They line the streets of U.S. cities with pictures
of the result of abortion. I encourage readers to give to this worthy
cause.
Greg
Jandrt
Schofield,
Wis.
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